Sarcoptic Mange in Red Fox

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Buddy's Mom

2006-09-27 21:00:56 UTC

I live in Ohio in the United States. Two red fox have been around ever
since their mother was taken by a coyote in early June. Yesterday I
noticed that one of them has really bad mange - bald tail, eyes swollen
nearly shut. I see via the interntet that they should get some
Ivermectin. My vet won't help as this is wild life and not companion
pets. The nature people in the area would only treat them if I trapped
them and brought them in. That's not going to happen. Does anyone
know how I can get the correct medicine and dose and put it in a water
bowl or food dish and put it out when I know they come around?
Thanks

Words

2006-09-27 22:55:28 UTC

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Post by Buddy's Mom
I live in Ohio in the United States. Two red fox have been around ever
since their mother was taken by a coyote in early June. Yesterday I
noticed that one of them has really bad mange - bald tail, eyes swollen
nearly shut. I see via the interntet that they should get some
Ivermectin. My vet won't help as this is wild life and not companion
pets. The nature people in the area would only treat them if I trapped
them and brought them in. That's not going to happen. Does anyone
know how I can get the correct medicine and dose and put it in a water
bowl or food dish and put it out when I know they come around?
Thanks

I don't know what the restrictions are on ivermectin in America, but
it can be harmful to other animals (it's highly toxic for certain
breeds of dog, for example). On our moderate cases our wildlife centre
was using three or four drops per weekly dose I think. Four doses in
total.

Unless the fox is a very regular visitor and you can be sure that it
will get the dose, treating in the wild is difficult to say the least,
both because of possible risks to other animals and because you can't
be sure that the correct fox gets the dose.

As an alternative there is widespread use of homeopathic treatments in
the UK, generally with good reports. A number of respected wildlife
centres use it when capture is tricky or feeding is uncertain. It can
be added to food more regularly with much less risk. Whether it would
work on such a bad case I'm not sure, but you should be able to get it
where you are..

Anyway, some details are here:
http://www.derbyfoxes.org/mange.htm
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Buddy's Mom

2006-09-28 00:32:39 UTC

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What are the homeopathic treatments? I have watched these guys grow up
since early June and they are very helpful with the chipmunk and rabbit
population. I would love to keep them alive. I am thinking that since
their mother died when they were young, they are doing things to simply
stay alive. Instead of being out at night when the coyotes can get
them, they are out at first light - so I could put their medicine out
in the morning for them and then, most animals wouldn't get it.

Post by Words

I don't know what the restrictions are on ivermectin in America, but
it can be harmful to other animals (it's highly toxic for certain
breeds of dog, for example). On our moderate cases our wildlife centre
was using three or four drops per weekly dose I think. Four doses in
total.
Unless the fox is a very regular visitor and you can be sure that it
will get the dose, treating in the wild is difficult to say the least,
both because of possible risks to other animals and because you can't
be sure that the correct fox gets the dose.
As an alternative there is widespread use of homeopathic treatments in
the UK, generally with good reports. A number of respected wildlife
centres use it when capture is tricky or feeding is uncertain. It can
be added to food more regularly with much less risk. Whether it would
work on such a bad case I'm not sure, but you should be able to get it
where you are..
http://www.derbyfoxes.org/mange.htm
--
Words
http://www.permuted.org.uk/fox
http://www.permuted.org.uk/picofday.html
http://my.opera.com/Words/blog

c***@yahoo.com

2006-09-28 03:58:27 UTC

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Post by Buddy's Mom
What are the homeopathic treatments? I have watched these guys grow up
since early June and they are very helpful with the chipmunk and rabbit
population. I would love to keep them alive. I am thinking that since
their mother died when they were young, they are doing things to simply
stay alive. Instead of being out at night when the coyotes can get
them, they are out at first light - so I could put their medicine out
in the morning for them and then, most animals wouldn't get it.

Post by Words

I don't know what the restrictions are on ivermectin in America, but
it can be harmful to other animals (it's highly toxic for certain
breeds of dog, for example). On our moderate cases our wildlife centre
was using three or four drops per weekly dose I think. Four doses in
total.
Unless the fox is a very regular visitor and you can be sure that it
will get the dose, treating in the wild is difficult to say the least,
both because of possible risks to other animals and because you can't
be sure that the correct fox gets the dose.
As an alternative there is widespread use of homeopathic treatments in
the UK, generally with good reports. A number of respected wildlife
centres use it when capture is tricky or feeding is uncertain. It can
be added to food more regularly with much less risk. Whether it would
work on such a bad case I'm not sure, but you should be able to get it
where you are..
http://www.derbyfoxes.org/mange.htm
--
Words

Post by Buddy's Mom

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Buddy's Mom,
I found this treatment for fox mange at:
http://www.terrierman.com/mange.htm. It is a very treatable condition
caused by mites. If you can get this medication, inject it into a
couple of pieces of meat like part of a hot dog. Put this near the den
hole where the foxes can get it. This two kits are wild and would be
very hard to trap. I am surprised the vixen was killed by a coyote.
They are natural enemies, but the red fox is much more clever. The
vixen was probably trying to protect the kits. Another vixen related to
the killed vixen could have adopted the kits.
Let me know what happens,
Foxman

Buddy's Mom

2006-09-28 14:30:31 UTC

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Thanks for everyone's suggestions. I hope that I can order this from
the UK. I will let you know how it goes if I can get it. I am not
finding it in the United States.

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Post by Words

I don't know what the restrictions are on ivermectin in America, but
it can be harmful to other animals (it's highly toxic for certain
breeds of dog, for example). On our moderate cases our wildlife centre
was using three or four drops per weekly dose I think. Four doses in
total.
Unless the fox is a very regular visitor and you can be sure that it
will get the dose, treating in the wild is difficult to say the least,
both because of possible risks to other animals and because you can't
be sure that the correct fox gets the dose.
As an alternative there is widespread use of homeopathic treatments in
the UK, generally with good reports. A number of respected wildlife
centres use it when capture is tricky or feeding is uncertain. It can
be added to food more regularly with much less risk. Whether it would
work on such a bad case I'm not sure, but you should be able to get it
where you are..
http://www.derbyfoxes.org/mange.htm
--
Words

Post by Buddy's Mom

Post by Words
http://www.permuted.org.uk/fox
http://www.permuted.org.uk/picofday.html
http://my.opera.com/Words/blog

Buddy's Mom,
http://www.terrierman.com/mange.htm. It is a very treatable condition
caused by mites. If you can get this medication, inject it into a
couple of pieces of meat like part of a hot dog. Put this near the den
hole where the foxes can get it. This two kits are wild and would be
very hard to trap. I am surprised the vixen was killed by a coyote.
They are natural enemies, but the red fox is much more clever. The
vixen was probably trying to protect the kits. Another vixen related to
the killed vixen could have adopted the kits.
Let me know what happens,
Foxman

Words

2006-09-28 06:42:47 UTC

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Post by Buddy's Mom
What are the homeopathic treatments?

The treatment is a combination of Arsenicum Alb & Sulphur 30C. I've
not used it but if you contact http://www.derbyfoxes.org/mange.htm
I'm sure they'll advise on dosage etc.
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Words
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